Cambridge Race 8

CLUBHOUSE SPORTS BAR MOBILE PACE

Prize Money: -

WAR CRY (5) is racing well with four top-five finishes in succession, the latest effort a third at Alexandra Park over 2200m. Finds a nice race and will take plenty of beating once more. S S GUPPY (6) resumes here after closing his last campaign with a seventh at this track on December 24. Expect him to pose a serious challenge. LOVE IT (1) was beaten 505 metres on debut last start over 2100m at Ruakaka. Capable of a lot more this time around. AWESOME WISH (4) was easily accounted for when ninth over 2200m at this track recently at his first race start. Strips fitter and can improve.

Distance: 2200m
Class: NON-WINNERS
Track: Good
Weather: Overcast
Surface: All Weather

Love It (Fr1) 0
Trainer: Tim Hall (Cambridge Raceway)
Driver: Tim Hall
Prize Money: $199
Win / Place: 0% / 0%

5 yo Bay Mare

Sire: Sportswriter

Dam: Enjoy

Dam's Sire: Christian Cullen

Rating

Stats

Career

1: 0-0-0

Distance

1: 0-0-0

Trk/Dst

0: 0-0-0

Track

0: 0-0-0

Season

1: 0-0-0

1st Up

1: 0-0-0

2nd Up

0: 0-0-0

3rd Up

0: 0-0-0

Metro

0: 0-0-0

Non-Metro

1: 0-0-0

Mobile

1: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

0: 0-0-0

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

1: 0-0-0

Left Handed

0: 0-0

Right Handed

1: 0-0

Favourite

0: 0-0-0

2nd Favourite

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

Driver Stats

Driver/Horse

1: 0-0-0

Driver Last 50

50: 4-1-0

Gear Changes

Pacifier OFF [Removable Deafeners]

Comments

Got it all wrong in Ruakaka debut. Unplaced in a workout since. Outside chance.

Expected Settling Position: Pace

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result	Race Review
10th of 10	6/4/26	Auckland	2100m	Mobile	Grass	Fr8	Tim Hall	2:08.2	2:08.2	503.0m	$48	-	NON-WINNERS 3YO+ MOB. PACE	$10,966	$199	1. Mr Putt 2. Always Be Kind 3. Magenta	Tardy score-up,brk in rear,no hope
3rd of 4	4/2/26	WaikBoP	2200m	Mobile		-	Tim Hall	2:47.70	-	1.85m	$0.00	-	Trial	$0	-	1. King Tide 2. Butler 3. Love It	-
1st of 2	20/11/25	WaikBoP	2200m	Mobile		-	Tim Hall	2:51.20	-	0.0m	$0.00	-	Trial	$0	-	1. Love It 2. Run Lola Run 3.	-

Copy N Paste (Fr2)
Trainer: Ray Green & Nathan Delany (Pukekohe)
Driver: Maurice McKendry
Prize Money: $0
Win / Place: 0% / 0%

3 yo Bay Gelding

Sire: Bettor's Delight

Dam: Galleons Supreme

Dam's Sire: Christian Cullen

Stats

Career

0: 0-0-0

Distance

0: 0-0-0

Trk/Dst

0: 0-0-0

Track

0: 0-0-0

Season

0: 0-0-0

1st Up

0: 0-0-0

2nd Up

0: 0-0-0

3rd Up

0: 0-0-0

Metro

0: 0-0-0

Non-Metro

0: 0-0-0

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

0: 0-0-0

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

Driver Stats

Driver/Horse

0: 0-0-0

Driver Last 50

50: 7-4-2

Gear Changes

[Removable Deafeners]

Comments

Trial winning brother to Spanish Armada on debut. Drawn to play a major role.

Expected Settling Position: Off Pace

Last Starts

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result	Race Review
1st of 5	29/4/26	Auckland	2050m	Mobile		-	Maurice McKendry	2:37.70	-	0.0m	$0.00	-	Trial	$0	-	1. Copy N Paste 2. Sriracha 3. Geralt	-
4th of 5	8/4/26	Auckland	2050m	Mobile		-	Harrison Orange	2:38.70	-	2.55m	$0.00	-	Trial	$0	-	1. Russley Diva 2. Lucky As 3. Soundshell	-
6th of 6	31/3/26	Auckland	2050m	Mobile		-	Maurice McKendry	2:35.30	-	0m	$0.00	-	Trial	$0	-	1. Fly High 2. Layton David 3. Shesfancylike	-

Geralt (Fr3)
Trainer: David & Clare McGowan (Pukekohe)
Driver: Taitlyn Hanara (J)
Prize Money: $0
Win / Place: 0% / 0%

3 yo Brown Gelding

Sire: Captain Crunch

Dam: Agnes de Gerolstein

Dam's Sire: Falcon Seelster

Stats

Career

0: 0-0-0

Distance

0: 0-0-0

Trk/Dst

0: 0-0-0

Track

0: 0-0-0

Season

0: 0-0-0

1st Up

0: 0-0-0

2nd Up

0: 0-0-0

3rd Up

0: 0-0-0

Metro

0: 0-0-0

Non-Metro

0: 0-0-0

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

0: 0-0-0

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

Driver Stats

Driver/Horse

0: 0-0-0

Driver Last 50

50: 4-11-5

Gear Changes

[Removable Deafeners]

Comments

Captain Crunch newcomer. Placed behind Copy N Paste in latest trial. Combos.

Expected Settling Position: Midfield

Last Starts

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result	Race Review
3rd of 5	29/4/26	Auckland	2050m	Mobile		-	Taitlyn Hanara	2:37.70	-	0.6m	$0.00	-	Trial	$0	-	1. Copy N Paste 2. Sriracha 3. Geralt	-
5th of 6	14/4/26	Auckland	2050m	Mobile		-	Taitlyn Hanara	2:38.30	-	0m	$0.00	-	Trial	$0	-	1. Night Moves 2. Ride The Waves 3. Awesome Choice	-
2nd of 2	3/3/26	Auckland	2050m	Mobile		-	Taitlyn Hanara	2:37.70	-	4.5m	$0.00	-	Trial	$0	-	1. Lightening Lass 2. Geralt 3.	-
4th of 5	24/2/26	Auckland	2050m	Mobile		-	Taitlyn Hanara	2:37.40	-	30.75m	$0.00	-	Trial	$0	-	1. Miss Cherokee 2. Secret Beach 3. Sriracha	-

Awesome Wish (Fr4) 9
Trainer: Danielle Green (Morrinsville)
Driver: Alicia Harrison (J)
Prize Money: $127
Win / Place: 0% / 0%

3 yo Bay Gelding

Sire: Lazarus

Dam: Bianca

Dam's Sire: Dream Away(USA)

Rating

Stats

Career

1: 0-0-0

Distance

1: 0-0-0

Trk/Dst

1: 0-0-0

Track

1: 0-0-0

Season

1: 0-0-0

1st Up

1: 0-0-0

2nd Up

0: 0-0-0

3rd Up

0: 0-0-0

Metro

0: 0-0-0

Non-Metro

1: 0-0-0

Mobile

1: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

1: 0-0-0

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Left Handed

1: 0-0

Right Handed

0: 0-0

Favourite

0: 0-0-0

2nd Favourite

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

Driver Stats

Driver/Horse

1: 0-0-0

Driver Last 50

50: 9-4-7

Gear Changes

[Fixed Deafeners]

Comments

Impeded in debut outing, forgive. Has placed in a recent workout. Rough claims.

Expected Settling Position: Midfield

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result	Race Review
9th of 13	16/4/26	WaikBoP	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr4	Alicia Harrison	1:59.4	1:59.4	32.3m	$7.30	-	NON-WINNERS 3YO+ MOB. PACE	$7,400	$127	1. Lexington Queen 2. Beach Blessing 3. Rivergirl Bella	Prkd,trld,4-bk,off,wd 800,chkd/brk
3rd of 4	20/8/25	N Cnty TOA	2000m	Mobile		-	Blair Orange	-	-	m	$0.00	-	Trial	$0	-	1. Brilliant Chase 2. 3. Awesome Wish	-

Place

Date

Track

Distance

Start

Surface

Barrier

Driver

Race Time

Mile Rate

Margin

Days

Class

Prize

Prize Won

Result

Race Review

9th of 13

16/4/26

WaikBoP

2200m

Mobile

All Weather

Fr4

Alicia Harrison

1:59.4

32.3m

$7.30

NON-WINNERS 3YO+ MOB. PACE

$7,400

$127

1. Lexington Queen

2. Beach Blessing

3. Rivergirl Bella

Prkd,trld,4-bk,off,wd 800,chkd/brk

3rd of 4

20/8/25

N Cnty TOA

2000m

Mobile

Blair Orange

$0.00

Trial

1. Brilliant Chase

3. Awesome Wish

War Cry (Fr5) x4333
Trainer: Barry Purdon & Scott Phelan (Clevedon)
Driver: Zachary Butcher
Prize Money: $53,193
Win / Place: 0% / 66%

3 yo Bay Filly

Sire: Lazarus

Dam: Thirsty Thursday

Dam's Sire: Art Major

100

Rating

Stats

Career

12: 0-1-7

Distance

5: 0-0-4

Trk/Dst

1: 0-0-1

Track

1: 0-0-1

Season

10: 0-1-6

1st Up

3: 0-0-1

2nd Up

3: 0-0-2

3rd Up

2: 0-0-2

Metro

8: 0-0-5

Non-Metro

4: 0-1-2

Mobile

12: 0-1-7

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

12: 0-1-7

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Left Handed

4: 0-3

Right Handed

8: 0-5

Favourite

1: 0-0-1

2nd Favourite

3: 0-0-3

Best Mile

Driver Stats

Driver/Horse

11: 0-1-7

Driver Last 50

50: 7-6-9

Gear Changes

Blinds OFF [Removable Deafeners]

Comments

Solid efforts to open this campaign must be rewarded with a win soon. Top pick.

Expected Settling Position: Leader

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result	Race Review
3rd of 13	24/4/26	Auckland	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Sr11	Zachary Butcher	2:02.5	2:02.5	4.0m	$4.50	7	NON-WINNERS 2YO+ MOB. PACE	$18,500	$1,727	1. Life Less Ordinary 2. Layton David 3. War Cry	6th otr,5-bk,wd cvr 700,ld,run down
3rd of 8	17/4/26	Auckland	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr4	Zachary Butcher	2:00.5	2:00.5	1.3m	$4.40	15	NON-WINNERS 2YO+ MOB. PACE	$12,682	$1,295	1. Always Be Kind 2. Sammy Lincoln 3. War Cry	Brk,6th,1x1 1800,off,closed stoutly
3rd of 8	2/4/26	WaikBoP	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr3	Zachary Butcher	1:58.9	1:58.9	3.0m	$1.40	13	NON-WINNERS 3YO+ F&M MOB. PACE	$12,682	$1,295	1. Miss Brabant 2. Dolly Parton 3. War Cry	Ld out,trld 950,thru,chall,thwarted
4th of 13	20/3/26	Auckland	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr1	Scott Phelan	1:57.5	1:57.5	67.2m	$4.90	126	3YO Fillies MOB. PACE	$136,364	$5,455	1. River 2. Queen Lizzy 3. Smackdown	Trld,3-bk 1650,whacked away in gap
126 Day Spell
1st of 7	10/3/26	Auckland	2050m	Mobile		-	Scott Phelan	2:39.00	-	0.0m	$0.00	-	Trial	$0	-	1. War Cry 2. Fly High 3. Evernden	-
9th of 13	14/11/25	NZ Metro	1980m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr2	Zachary Butcher	1:55.2	1:55.2	61.9m	$6.60	18	2YO Fillies MOB. PACE	$167,273	$4,182	1. All Of Me 2. The Queens Gambit 3. Indulge Me	Trld,3bk inr 1200,urgd tn,battld

S S Guppy (Fr6) 23p7x
Trainer: Steve & Amanda Telfer (Papakura)
Driver: Andre Poutama
Prize Money: $5,005
Win / Place: 0% / 33%

Driver Flying

4 yo Bay Gelding

Sire: Captain Crunch

Dam: Presidential Affair

Dam's Sire: Presidential Ball

Rating

Stats

Career

9: 0-1-2

Distance

5: 0-1-1

Trk/Dst

5: 0-1-1

Track

5: 0-1-1

Season

5: 0-1-2

1st Up

3: 0-0-1

2nd Up

3: 0-1-0

3rd Up

1: 0-0-1

Metro

0: 0-0-0

Non-Metro

9: 0-1-2

Mobile

9: 0-1-2

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

9: 0-1-2

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Left Handed

9: 0-3

Right Handed

0: 0-0

Favourite

1: 0-0-1

2nd Favourite

2: 0-1-0

Best Mile

Driver Stats

Driver/Horse

0: 0-0-0

Driver Last 50

50: 11-8-6

Gear Changes

[Removable Deafeners, Blinds]

Comments

Resuming. 4th in Copy N Paste's trial. Consider him on an each way basis.

Expected Settling Position: Leader

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result	Race Review
4th of 5	29/4/26	Auckland	2050m	Mobile		-	Kristina Denifostova	2:37.70	-	2.1m	$0.00	-	Trial	$0	-	1. Copy N Paste 2. Sriracha 3. Geralt	-
7th of 10	24/12/25	WaikBoP	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr6	Josh Dickie	1:59.0	1:59.0	23.9m	$5.10	13	NON-WINNERS 3YO+ MOB. PACE	$13,159	$239	1. Silent Theory 2. Abman 3. Cupids Arrow	8th otr,wd 1600,prkd,ld 300,run dwn
- of 7	11/12/25	Manawatu	2000m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr6	Jacob Dunn	2:02.7	2:02.7	267.3m	$3.20	2	NON-WINNERS 2YO+ MOB. PACE	$9,955	$191	1. Lincoln Maree 2. Rhaegal 3. Rattle My Cage	6th inr,off 1250,tyre problem,p/up
3rd of 7	9/12/25	Manawatu	2000m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr7	Jacob Dunn	1:58.3	1:58.3	10.8m	$1.90	12	NON-WINNERS 2YO+ MOB. PACE	$9,125	$950	1. Melton Enforcer 2. Bet On Polly 3. S S Guppy	Wd,prkd the trip,bttld away solidly
2nd of 9	27/11/25	WaikBoP	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr4	Jacob Dunn	2:02.3	2:02.3	2.2m	$4.30	13	NON-WINNERS 2YO+ MOB. PACE	$6,891	$1,127	1. Iron Heart 2. S S Guppy 3. Rasmussin Effect	3-bk otr,wd cvr 400,wdr top,chased
3rd of 8	14/11/25	WaikBoP	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr2	Josh Dickie	1:59.9	1:59.9	13.7m	$5.50	106	NON-WINNERS 3YO+ MOB. PACE	$14,373	$1,468	1. Tipstar 2. Abman 3. S S Guppy	Sweet sit otr,wd top,ran on nicely
106 Day Spell

Magenta (Fr7) 04530
Trainer: Tony Herlihy (Papakura)
Driver: Holly Moralde Sands (J)
Prize Money: $4,227
Win / Place: 0% / 20%

3 yo Bay Filly

Sire: Sky Major

Dam: Uandmebabe

Dam's Sire: Bettor's Delight

Rating

Stats

Career

10: 0-0-2

Distance

8: 0-0-1

Trk/Dst

3: 0-0-0

Track

5: 0-0-0

Season

10: 0-0-2

1st Up

1: 0-0-0

2nd Up

1: 0-0-0

3rd Up

1: 0-0-0

Metro

4: 0-0-1

Non-Metro

6: 0-0-1

Mobile

10: 0-0-2

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

9: 0-0-1

Slushy

1: 0-0-0

Grass

1: 0-0-1

Left Handed

5: 0-0

Right Handed

5: 0-2

Favourite

1: 0-0-0

2nd Favourite

1: 0-0-0

Best Mile

Driver Stats

Driver/Horse

4: 0-0-2

Driver Last 50

38: 2-5-7

Gear Changes

[Removable Deafeners, Blinds]

Comments

Safely held at Auckland 24Apr. Stout Ruakaka placing 6Apr. Trifecta's/First4's.

Expected Settling Position: Leader

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result	Race Review
11th of 13	24/4/26	Auckland	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr5	Alicia Harrison	2:02.5	2:02.5	16.1m	$21	18	NON-WINNERS 2YO+ MOB. PACE	$18,500	$318	1. Life Less Ordinary 2. Layton David 3. War Cry	9th otr,6-bk 1300,wd cvr,4w,no xtra
3rd of 10	6/4/26	Auckland	2100m	Mobile	Grass	Fr5	Holly Moralde Sands	2:08.2	2:08.2	7.8m	$13	11	NON-WINNERS 3YO+ MOB. PACE	$10,966	$1,080	1. Mr Putt 2. Always Be Kind 3. Magenta	Slw,8th gap,4bk otr,wd 300,bold fin
5th of 10	26/3/26	WaikBoP	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr4	Alicia Harrison	2:00.4	2:00.4	19.9m	$9.10	7	NON-WINNERS 3YO+ MOB. PACE	$7,018	$127	1. Lulana 2. Miss Brabant 3. Rivergirl Bella	Rear otr,3-bk,wd cvr,postd,bttld on
4th of 9	19/3/26	WaikBoP	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Sr9	Holly Moralde Sands	2:00.2	2:00.2	10.8m	$7.00	14	NON-WINNERS 3YO+ MOB. PACE	$6,891	$436	1. Twist And Tango 2. Loveable Rogue 3. Rivergirl Bella	5th inr,shffld,rear 300,late dig wd
11th of 12	5/3/26	WaikBoP	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr3	Alicia Harrison	2:00.2	2:00.2	398.1m	$6.40	13	NON-WINNERS 3YO+ MOB. PACE	$7,273	$127	1. King Tide 2. Valerei 3. The Miki Taker	Brk late score-up,out of business
7th of 7	20/2/26	Auckland	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr3	Holly Moralde Sands	2:01.6	2:01.6	56.5m	$17	7	NON-WINNERS 3YO+ MOB. PACE	$12,444	$239	1. Iron Mike Tyson 2. Lulana 3. Sammy Lincoln	5th inr,off,wd rear 450,chkd & brk

Mara (Fr8) x3568
Trainer: Dylan & Jo Ferguson (Cambridge)
Driver: Dylan Ferguson
Prize Money: $1,200
Win / Place: 0% / 20%

3 yo Brown Filly

Sire: Bettor's Wish

Dam: Maravu Excuse

Dam's Sire: Rob Roy Mattgregor

Rating

Stats

Career

5: 0-0-1

Distance

4: 0-0-1

Trk/Dst

4: 0-0-1

Track

5: 0-0-1

Season

5: 0-0-1

1st Up

2: 0-0-1

2nd Up

1: 0-0-0

3rd Up

1: 0-0-0

Metro

0: 0-0-0

Non-Metro

5: 0-0-1

Mobile

5: 0-0-1

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

5: 0-0-1

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Left Handed

5: 0-1

Right Handed

0: 0-0

Favourite

0: 0-0-0

2nd Favourite

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

Driver Stats

Driver/Horse

4: 0-0-1

Driver Last 50

50: 1-5-7

Gear Changes

Blinds ON [Removable Deafeners, Blinds]

Comments

Freshened. Runner-up in a workout last weekend. Dealt a tough draw. Rough hope.

Expected Settling Position: Pace

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result	Race Review
8th of 9	19/3/26	WaikBoP	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr2	Dylan Ferguson	2:00.2	2:00.2	22.1m	$26	14	NON-WINNERS 3YO+ MOB. PACE	$6,891	$127	1. Twist And Tango 2. Loveable Rogue 3. Rivergirl Bella	5th inr,4-bk,off,wd cvr,no pick-up
6th of 12	5/3/26	WaikBoP	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Sr9	Dylan Ferguson	2:00.2	2:00.2	11.6m	$21	14	NON-WINNERS 3YO+ MOB. PACE	$7,273	$127	1. King Tide 2. Valerei 3. The Miki Taker	3 & 4-bk mrks,off,wd cvr,bttld away
5th of 7	19/2/26	WaikBoP	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr7	Dylan Ferguson	2:01.0	2:01.0	10.5m	$5.70	15	NON-WINNERS 3YO+ MOB. PACE	$6,636	$127	1. Lincoln Linda 2. Valerei 3. Abman	6th,6-bk inr,off,wd 650,loomed,fght
3rd of 11	4/2/26	WaikBoP	2200m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr3	Dylan Ferguson	1:58.5	1:58.5	17.8m	$98	146	NON-WINNERS 3YO+ MOB. PACE	$7,145	$691	1. Soul Artist 2. Abman 3. Mara	3-bk mrks,4-bk 5th 500,off,tidy wd
146 Day Spell
5th of 5	11/9/25	WaikBoP	1700m	Mobile	All Weather	Fr1	Peter Ferguson	1:57.8	1:57.8	21.5m	$28	-	NON-WINNERS 2YO MOB. PACE	$6,382	$127	1. Critical Image 2. Lulana 3. Imon	Trld,3-bk 1300,unable to quicken up
4th of 5	5/8/25	Auckland	2050m	Mobile		-	Dylan Ferguson	-	-	m	$0.00	-	Trial	$0	-	1. Iron Mike Tyson 2. 3.	-

Race Review Abbreviations

Brk: Broke, Blkd: Blocked or held up, 1 x 1: One-out, one-back, Prkd: Parked, 3bk otr: 3 back on the outer, 3bk inr: Same as above, but on the inside, trld: Trailed, Gt spd: Showed gate speed, 3wd: 3-wide postd: Caught wide without cover, Held up: Held up, no gaps or few gaps: If they don't see any clear air in the straight, Inr-mid-wd -position: On the inside, mid = 1-off, wd = 3-wide or wider, flew hm wd: Flew home wide, dashd inr: Sprinted well on the inside, Chkd: Checked, Slow: Slow away at the start, Wltd: Wilted or got tired, Fdd: Faded late, Urgd: If the driver is getting stuck in