Lone Star Park Race 5

Allowance Optional Claiming

Prize Money: $53,906

ATHENA D'ORO (7) Picked up nicely to win last run at Sam Houston and proven performer at this distance. Appears well in this. RUBY CANTU (3) Ran 5th last time at Sam Houston. May see an upturn in form and honest performer putting a tidy record together. Can get the job done. CAFEZINHO (8) Looked outclassed when 8th last run at Sam Houston. Expecting improvement. Alfredo J Juarez Jr is a bonus. Goes very close. TAKE MY PICTURE (2) Close to claiming the win last start at Sam Houston and gets a favourable gate. Stewart Elliott and Jayde J Gelner form a proven partnership. Could pose a threat and looks promising. Something for the Multiples: WILBURNSCLASSYLADY (6)
  • Distance: 1609m
  • Track: Good
  • Weather: Cloudy
  • Surface: Turf
  • Class: ALLOW OCLM
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1William Bret Calhoun
  • Speak Softly (1) 944611x1x5
  • Trainer: William Bret Calhoun ()
  • Jockey: David Cabrera
  • Weight: 55kg
  • Prize Money: $144,967
  • Win / Place: 23% / 41%

4 yo Dark Bay/Brown Filly

Sire: MR SPEAKER (USA)

Dam: PHYLLIS SASSY GIRL (USA)

Dam's Sire: Concerto

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Rating

Stats
Career
17: 4-2-1
Distance
2: 0-0-0
Season
2: 1-0-0
1st Up
4: 1-1-0
2nd Up
2: 0-1-0
3rd Up
1: 0-0-0
4th Up
1: 1-0-0
Metro
6: 2-2-0
Non-Metro
11: 2-0-1
Turf
2: 0-0-0
Dirt
15: 4-2-1
Fast
2: 0-0-0
Firm
2: 0-0-0
Anti-Clockwise
17: 4-2-1
Jockey Stats
Horse
1: 0-0-0
Last 50
0: 0-0-0
Trainer
W 0% P 0%
Distance
W 0% P 0%
Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Distance
W 0% P 0%
Distance Range Last 6 months

1207m - 1673m

Comments
Second-up today. Last run 5th of 8 at Sam Houston Park on March 29 over 1207m, 5.5 len behind Bling Baby with 56kg at $14.50. At only start last preparation won by 1.75 len at Sam Houston Park January 25 over 1673m defeating Bling Baby with 56kg at $3.70.

Expected Settling Position: Pace

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceClassBarrierJockeyWeightCond.Race TimeAvg. SpeedMargin800/400SPDaysPrizePrize WonResult
5th of 829/3/25Sam Houston1207mALLOW FM 3U2David Cabrera56kgGood1:11.5560.7 km/h5.5L5-2$1563$55,468$1,983

1. Bling Baby

2. Naval Woman

3. Blue Heavenly

63 Day Spell
1st of 625/1/25Sam Houston1673mALLOW FM 3U4Jose L Alvarez56kgFast1:45.6057.0 km/h1.8L2-1$3.7070$55,645$33,290

1. Speak Softly

2. Bling Baby

3. Midshipman's Lady

70 Day Spell
1st of 516/11/24Remington Park1609mCLM FM 3U3Jose L Alvarez54kgFast1:41.3757.1 km/h4.0L1-1$1.10f28$24,353$14,612

1. Speak Softly

2. Poetic Union

3. Slick City Girl

- of 07/11/24Remington Park1609mClaiming2Jose L. Alvarez54kg--L-$0.00---

1.

2.

3.

1st of 819/10/24Remington Park1609mCLM FM 3U7Jose L Alvarez53.5kgFast1:40.9157.4 km/h1.8L1-1$1.40f57$21,676$12,785

1. Speak Softly

2. Back In Charge

3. Kantirun

57 Day Freshen-Up
6th of 1223/8/24Remington Park1207mCLM FM 3U6Richard E Eramia53.5kgFast1:12.2360.2 km/h7.4L6-3$4.1054$23,041$131

1. Mariah

2. Anna Up

3. Iuka Miss

54 Day Freshen-Up
2Jayde J Gelner
  • Take My Picture (2) 04143x1422
  • Trainer: Jayde J Gelner ()
  • Jockey: Stewart Elliott
  • Weight: 55kg
  • Prize Money: $146,218
  • Win / Place: 23% / 53%

4 yo Bay Filly

Sire: DEMARCHELIER (GB)

Dam: FREE N CLEAR (USA)

Dam's Sire: Bluegrass Cat

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Rating

Stats
Career
13: 3-2-2
Distance
5: 1-0-1
Trk/Dst
3: 0-0-0
Track
2: 0-0-0
Season
4: 1-2-0
1st Up
2: 1-0-0
2nd Up
2: 1-0-0
3rd Up
2: 0-1-1
4th Up
2: 0-1-0
Non-Metro
13: 3-2-2
Turf
9: 2-2-2
Dirt
4: 1-0-0
Fast
9: 2-2-2
Firm
9: 2-2-0
Anti-Clockwise
13: 3-2-2
Jockey Stats
Horse
3: 1-0-0
Last 50
0: 0-0-0
Trainer
W 0% P 0%
Distance
W 0% P 0%
Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Distance
W 0% P 0%
Distance Range Last 6 months

1609m - 1811m

Comments
Useful filly. Comes here off a 41-day let-up. Most recently 2nd of 8 at Sam Houston Park in LR on March 22 over 1710m, 0.3 len behind Blood Orange carrying 53.5kg at $19.50. The run before that ran on from midfield; 2nd of 10 at Sam Houston Park on March 14 over 1811m, 3.5 len behind Ninth Island carrying 56kg at $6.30.

Expected Settling Position: Backmarker

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceClassBarrierJockeyWeightCond.Race TimeAvg. SpeedMargin800/400SPDaysPrizePrize WonResult
2nd of 822/3/25Sam Houston1710mLR OPEN FM 41Deshawn L Parker53.5kgFM1:45.0958.6 km/h0.3L8-3$208$131,537$25,357

1. Blood Orange

2. Take My Picture

3. Sky Rocker

2nd of 1014/3/25Sam Houston1811mALLOW FM 3U10Isaiah Wiseman56kgFM1:52.0058.2 km/h3.5L5-5$6.3027$55,377$13,162

1. Ninth Island

2. Take My Picture

3. Utsira

4th of 915/2/25Sam Houston1609mLR OPEN FM 47Isaiah Wiseman54kgGood1:39.4158.3 km/h11.0L4-6$2029$120,773$7,874

1. Optimistic Cowgirl

2. Sky Rocker

3. Blue Heavenly

1st of 917/1/25Sam Houston1710mALLOW FM 4U6Isaiah Wiseman55kgFM1:47.4257.3 km/h1.5L7-3$6.40116$55,645$33,000

1. Take My Picture

2. Sweet Karat Cake

3. Gracie's Kitten

116 Day Spell
3rd of 823/9/24Louisiana Downs1710mCLM FM 3U1Lindey Wade54.5kgFM1:44.3159.0 km/h1.8L8-5$3.4026$16,176$1,779

1. Honest Angus

2. Deroutante

3. Take My Picture

4th of 1028/8/24Louisiana Downs1509mCLM FM 3U10Lindey Wade53.5kgFM1:31.5659.3 km/h1.9L8-7$4.9032$16,897$1,014

1. Show Me The Candy

2. Broadway Pearl

3. Little Z

32 Day Freshen-Up
3Matt Hebert
  • Ruby Cantu (3) 6211x5
  • Trainer: Matt Hebert ()
  • Jockey: Iram Diego
  • Weight: 55kg
  • Prize Money: $85,976
  • Win / Place: 40% / 60%
Track / Distance Specialist

4 yo Bay Filly

Sire: KEEP UP (USA)

Dam: SWEET AVA JANE (USA)

Dam's Sire: Early Flyer

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Rating

Stats
Career
5: 2-1-0
Distance
3: 2-1-0
Trk/Dst
3: 2-1-0
Track
3: 2-1-0
Season
1: 0-0-0
1st Up
2: 0-0-0
2nd Up
1: 0-1-0
3rd Up
1: 1-0-0
4th Up
1: 1-0-0
Non-Metro
5: 2-1-0
Turf
4: 2-1-0
Dirt
1: 0-0-0
Fast
4: 2-1-0
Firm
4: 2-1-0
Anti-Clockwise
5: 2-1-0
Jockey Stats
Horse
1: 0-0-0
Last 50
0: 0-0-0
Trainer
W 0% P 0%
Distance
W 0% P 0%
Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Distance
W 0% P 0%
Distance Range Last 6 months

1811m

Comments
Second run back. Comes off a 49-day let-up. First-up after eight months 5th of 10 at Sam Houston Park on March 14 over 1811m, 5 len behind Ninth Island carrying 55kg at $8.70. Previously second-up 2nd of 11 at this track on May 26 over 1609m, 1.0 len behind Bradee Cash with 55kg at $5.10.

Expected Settling Position: Midfield

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceClassBarrierJockeyWeightCond.Race TimeAvg. SpeedMargin800/400SPDaysPrizePrize WonResult
5th of 1014/3/25Sam Houston1811mALLOW FM 3U2Alfredo Jr Triana55kgFM1:52.0058.2 km/h5.0L1-6$8.70243$55,377$1,974

1. Ninth Island

2. Take My Picture

3. Utsira

243 Day Spell
1st of 914/7/24Lone Star Park1609mALLOW FM 3U6Richard E Eramia55kgFM1:36.9659.7 km/h0.3L7-3$2.70f22$60,902$36,180

1. Ruby Cantu

2. Kause I'm Devine

3. Gracie's Kitten

1st of 1222/6/24Lone Star Park1609mMDN FM 3U2Richard E Eramia55kgFM1:37.3159.5 km/h3.3L6-1$2.50f27$60,423$35,619

1. Ruby Cantu

2. Taps Mistress

3. Shy Ann

2nd of 1126/5/24Lone Star Park1609mMDN FM 3U4Richard E Eramia55kgFM1:37.4959.4 km/h1.0L4-2$5.1050$61,162$12,049

1. Bradee Cash

2. Ruby Cantu

3. On Wing

50 Day Freshen-Up
6th of 106/4/24Sam Houston1106mMDN FM 355Inosencio Diego54kgFast1:05.7560.6 km/h11.0L7-7$14-$61,444$154

1. Texas Star

2. Avaling

3. Flying First Class

4Mary Saavedra
  • Kause I'm Devine (4) 2x30x45326
  • Trainer: Mary Saavedra ()
  • Jockey: Elvin Gonzalez
  • Weight: 55kg
  • Prize Money: $175,565
  • Win / Place: 2.00% / 34%

8 yo Dark Bay/Brown Mare

Sire: NIAGARA CAUSEWAY (USA)

Dam: DIVINE DECREE (USA)

Dam's Sire: Stormy Atlantic

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Rating

Stats
Career
50: 1-9-7
Distance
27: 0-5-5
Trk/Dst
9: 0-2-1
Track
17: 0-2-2
Season
5: 0-1-1
1st Up
7: 0-1-1
2nd Up
6: 0-0-0
3rd Up
5: 0-1-1
4th Up
5: 1-2-0
Metro
6: 0-2-3
Non-Metro
44: 1-7-4
Turf
37: 0-7-7
Good
1: 0-0-0
Dirt
13: 1-2-0
Fast
36: 0-7-7
Firm
19: 0-3-0
Anti-Clockwise
50: 1-9-7
Jockey Stats
Horse
0: 0-0-0
Last 50
0: 0-0-0
Trainer
W 0% P 0%
Distance
W 0% P 0%
Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Distance
W 0% P 0%
Distance Range Last 6 months

1609m - 1710m

Comments
Last start 6th of 10 at this track on April 18 over 1609m, 6 len behind Typhoon Tessie carrying 54.5kg at $5.20. The start before that 2nd of 10 at Sam Houston Park on March 23 over 1609m, 0.3 len behind Athena D'oro carrying 55kg at $5.40.

Expected Settling Position: Backmarker

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceClassBarrierJockeyWeightCond.Race TimeAvg. SpeedMargin800/400SPDaysPrizePrize WonResult
6th of 1018/4/25Lone Star Park1609mALLOW FM 3U10Santos Rivera54.5kgFM1:36.9759.7 km/h5.9L9-8$5.2026$53,514$160

1. Typhoon Tessie

2. Midshipman's Lady

3. Saltamontes Diva

2nd of 1023/3/25Sam Houston1609mALLOW FM 3U6Aburto Luis Manuel Jimenez55kgFM1:39.5958.2 km/h0.3L9-2$5.4021$54,675$12,995

1. Athena D'oro

2. Kause I'm Devine

3. Holiday Presence

3rd of 82/3/25Sam Houston1710mALLOW FM 3U8Aburto Luis Manuel Jimenez55kgFM1:46.8457.6 km/h1.0L7-3$1523$55,377$7,274

1. Hey Cowgirl

2. Gracie's Kitten

3. Kause I'm Devine

5th of 107/2/25Sam Houston1609mALLOW FM 3U7Aburto Luis Manuel Jimenez55kgFM1:41.6557.0 km/h2.1L9-6$1621$55,556$1,981

1. Sweet Karat Cake

2. Midshipman's Lady

3. Athena D'oro

4th of 917/1/25Sam Houston1710mALLOW FM 4U7Aburto Luis Manuel Jimenez55kgFM1:47.4257.3 km/h3.3L8-4$1965$55,645$3,300

1. Take My Picture

2. Sweet Karat Cake

3. Gracie's Kitten

65 Day Spell
11th of 1113/11/24Remington Park1609mALLOW FM 3U2Miguel A Perez56kgFM1:39.6058.2 km/h10.5L11-11$5314$53,272$129

1. Geometrique

2. Jade Empire

3. Change It Up

5Cesar Govea
  • Blue Heavenly (5) 0442833536
  • Trainer: Cesar Govea ()
  • Jockey: Santos Rivera
  • Weight: 55kg
  • Prize Money: $244,714
  • Win / Place: 16% / 52%

4 yo Bay Filly

Sire: ENTICED (USA)

Dam: CANNONBALLCUPCAKE (USA)

Dam's Sire: Lemon Drop Kid

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Rating

Stats
Career
25: 4-3-6
Distance
6: 1-0-0
Trk/Dst
2: 0-0-1
Track
1: 0-0-0
Season
8: 0-1-3
1st Up
1: 1-0-0
2nd Up
1: 0-0-0
3rd Up
1: 0-0-0
4th Up
1: 0-0-0
Metro
7: 1-0-2
Non-Metro
18: 3-3-4
Turf
8: 1-0-0
Dirt
17: 3-3-6
Fast
8: 1-0-0
Firm
8: 1-0-0
Anti-Clockwise
25: 4-3-6
Jockey Stats
Horse
1: 0-0-0
Last 50
0: 0-0-0
Trainer
W 0% P 0%
Distance
W 0% P 0%
Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Distance
W 0% P 0%
Distance Range Last 6 months

1207m - 1710m

Comments
Useful filly. Most recently 6th of 9 at this track in LR on April 17 over 1308m, 3 len behind Izatiz carrying 54.5kg at $36.90. The run before that 3rd of 8 at Sam Houston Park on March 29 over 1207m, 2.75 len behind Bling Baby with 55kg at $8.

Expected Settling Position: Midfield

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceClassBarrierJockeyWeightCond.Race TimeAvg. SpeedMargin800/400SPDaysPrizePrize WonResult
6th of 917/4/25Lone Star Park1308mLR OPEN FM 35Santos Rivera54.5kgFast1:17.6960.6 km/h3.1L6-6$3719$119,808$1,797

1. Izatiz, Too Much Kiki

2.

3. Honest

3rd of 829/3/25Sam Houston1207mALLOW FM 3U8Mario Fuentes55kgGood1:11.5560.7 km/h2.8L1-4$8.007$55,468$7,269

1. Bling Baby

2. Naval Woman

3. Blue Heavenly

5th of 822/3/25Sam Houston1710mLR OPEN FM 47Mario Fuentes53.5kgFM1:45.0958.6 km/h8.5L4-4$3235$131,537$3,803

1. Blood Orange

2. Take My Picture

3. Sky Rocker

35 Day Freshen-Up
3rd of 915/2/25Sam Houston1609mLR OPEN FM 41Mario Fuentes53kgGood1:39.4158.3 km/h10.8L9-5$1010$120,773$14,436

1. Optimistic Cowgirl

2. Sky Rocker

3. Blue Heavenly

3rd of 95/2/25Delta Downs1408mALLOW FM 4U4Sergio Munoz54.5kgFast1:27.4558.0 km/h4.0L4-6$5.2012$57,971$6,377

1. Show Me The Candy

2. So Jordan

3. Blue Heavenly

8th of 924/1/25Sam Houston1609mALLOW FM 4U1Leandro Goncalves55kgFM1:39.5058.2 km/h6.6L2-6$1814$67,742$161

1. Sky Rocker

2. Imaluckycharm

3. Optimistic Cowgirl

6Ronnie Iii Cravens
  • Wilburnsclassylady (6) 718614x54x
  • Trainer: Ronnie Iii Cravens (USA)
  • Jockey: Ernesto Valdez-Jiminez
  • Weight: 55kg
  • Prize Money: $157,222
  • Win / Place: 16% / 33%

6 yo Dark Bay/Brown Mare

Sire: WILBURN (USA)

Dam: WILD MS PULVEY (USA)

Dam's Sire: Half Ours

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Rating

Stats
Career
24: 4-3-1
Distance
16: 2-3-1
Trk/Dst
5: 0-1-0
Track
8: 1-1-0
Season
2: 0-0-0
1st Up
7: 0-2-1
2nd Up
6: 1-0-0
3rd Up
3: 1-1-0
4th Up
2: 1-0-0
Metro
3: 1-0-0
Non-Metro
21: 3-3-1
Turf
20: 4-3-1
Dirt
4: 0-0-0
Fast
20: 4-3-1
Firm
15: 3-1-0
Anti-Clockwise
24: 4-3-1
Jockey Stats
Horse
4: 1-0-0
Last 50
0: 0-0-0
Trainer
W 0% P 0%
Distance
W 0% P 0%
Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Distance
W 0% P 0%
Distance Range Last 6 months

1609m

Comments
Mare back from a spell of ten weeks. Has placed previously first up from a break. Finished off last preparation fourth in a small field at Sam Houston Park February 22 over 1609m, 4.5 len behind Grand Prairie Gal carrying 55kg at $3.30. When resuming last campaign fifth of 9 at Sam Houston Park January 24 over 1609m, 4 len behind Sky Rocker carrying 55kg at $18.60.

Expected Settling Position: Pace

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceClassBarrierJockeyWeightCond.Race TimeAvg. SpeedMargin800/400SPDaysPrizePrize WonResult
4th of 622/2/25Sam Houston1609mHCP FM 3U5E Valdez-Jiminez55kgFast1:40.3557.7 km/h4.5L5-4$3.30f29$32,206$1,923

1. Grand Prairie Gal

2. Fella's Sister

3. Desert Glow

5th of 924/1/25Sam Houston1609mALLOW FM 4U5Inosencio Diego55kgFM1:39.5058.2 km/h4.3L1-4$1969$67,742$2,013

1. Sky Rocker

2. Imaluckycharm

3. Optimistic Cowgirl

69 Day Spell
4th of 516/11/24Remington Park1609mALLOW FM 3U3Harry Hernandez55kgFM1:40.4257.7 km/h4.8L2-5$9.5042$54,795$3,288

1. Krik Tak

2. Talkin Cadee

3. No Mas Tequila

42 Day Freshen-Up
- of 07/11/24Remington Park1609mAllowance3Harry Hernandez56kg--L-$0.00---

1.

2.

3.

1st of 95/10/24Remington Park1509mCLM FM 3U5Harry Hernandez54kgFM1:31.0659.7 km/h1.8L1-1$9.4042$34,682$20,514

1. Wilburnsclassylady

2. Mission Belle

3. Quinn Ella

42 Day Freshen-Up
6th of 1024/8/24Remington Park1509mALLOW FM 3U3Harry Hernandez56kgFM1:32.7058.6 km/h5.9L3-5$5.1042$53,763$131

1. Krik Tak

2. Flyin Withthe Boss

3. Catale Winemixer

42 Day Freshen-Up
7Mindy Willis
  • Athena D'oro (7) 6x221x5341
  • Trainer: Mindy Willis ()
  • Jockey: Richard Eramia
  • Weight: 56kg
  • Prize Money: $110,654
  • Win / Place: 25% / 62%

4 yo Dark Bay/Brown Filly

Sire: ATREIDES (USA)

Dam: FALLEN ARCHES (USA)

Dam's Sire: Arch

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Rating

Stats
Career
8: 2-2-1
Distance
5: 2-2-1
Season
4: 1-0-1
1st Up
3: 0-1-0
2nd Up
2: 0-1-1
3rd Up
2: 1-0-0
4th Up
1: 1-0-0
Non-Metro
8: 2-2-1
Turf
7: 2-2-1
Dirt
1: 0-0-0
Fast
7: 2-2-1
Firm
7: 2-2-0
Anti-Clockwise
8: 2-2-1
Jockey Stats
Horse
0: 0-0-0
Last 50
0: 0-0-0
Trainer
W 0% P 0%
Distance
W 0% P 0%
Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Track
W 0% P 0%
Trainer/Distance
W 0% P 0%
Distance Range Last 6 months

1609m - 1710m

Comments
Comes off a 40 day let-up. Last start came from midfield and won by a 0.3 len at Sam Houston Park March 23 over 1609m defeating Kause I'm Devine with 55kg at $2.50. The run before that sat on the speed and boxed on steadily 4th of 8 at Sam Houston Park on March 2 over 1710m, 3 len behind Hey Cowgirl with 55kg at $3.30.

Expected Settling Position: Midfield

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceClassBarrierJockeyWeightCond.Race TimeAvg. SpeedMargin800/400SPDaysPrizePrize WonResult
1st of 1023/3/25Sam Houston1609mALLOW FM 3U4Deshawn L Parker55kgFM1:39.5958.2 km/h0.3L5-1$2.50f21$54,675$38,986

1. Athena D'oro

2. Kause I'm Devine

3. Holiday Presence

4th of 82/3/25Sam Houston1710mALLOW FM 3U5Alfredo Jr Triana55kgFM1:46.8457.6 km/h3.3L3-2$3.30f23$55,377$3,968

1. Hey Cowgirl

2. Gracie's Kitten

3. Kause I'm Devine

3rd of 107/2/25Sam Houston1609mALLOW FM 3U9Alfredo Jr Triana55kgFM1:41.6557.0 km/h0.9L5-3$5.9021$55,556$7,262

1. Sweet Karat Cake

2. Midshipman's Lady

3. Athena D'oro

5th of 917/1/25Sam Houston1710mALLOW FM 4U5S Elliott55kgFM1:47.4257.3 km/h3.8L2-2$3.10f294$55,645$1,650

1. Take My Picture

2. Sweet Karat Cake

3. Gracie's Kitten

294 Day Spell
1st of 929/3/24Sam Houston1609mMDN FM 354Alfredo Jr Triana54kgFM1:40.6157.6 km/h2.8L7-3$1.50f34$61,538$36,554

1. Athena D'oro

2. Taps Mistress

3. Bradee Cash

34 Day Freshen-Up
2nd of 824/2/24Sam Houston1609mMDN FM 351Alfredo Jr Triana54kgFM1:39.8558.0 km/h0.5L6-1$1.90f20$60,698$12,049

1. Take My Picture

2. Athena D'oro

3. River's End

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